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Socialists Sweep NYC, China Catches Up in Coding, AI Memory Crunch, Micron's Blowout Quarter

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  1. I think AI is a very good prism into this problem. I think AI is the greatest economic leveler we'll ever find in our lifetime. I think it's the thing that can create the greatest amount of equality. I think that it can even the starting line for every single person on earth. But we've done such a poor job in representing it, in bringing it to market, in talking about it. We've let all of our own personal trials and tribulations and insecurities and fights spill out into the open. As a result, Silicon Valley has lost even more credibility with the people at large.

    Chamath argues that AI's potential as an equalizer is being squandered by Silicon Valley's internal drama, ceding political ground to anti-capitalist movements.

  2. The best way to explain it is I think that the first real major unlock of economic productivity was when the internet and specifically Google went and harvested and collected all the world's knowledge and all the world's information and they made it available via search. What we figure out though 25 years later, despite the fact that they built a great business, is what was missing was then being able to take that knowledge and information and transform it into expertise and intelligence. And that's effectively what AI does.

    Chamath draws a clear conceptual distinction between information access (Google/internet) and intelligence/expertise access (AI), framing AI as completing the internet's unfulfilled promise.

  3. Truth and justice is the immune system for society. When the immune system is suppressed, all the social ills flare up. Okay? So if you're seeing us losing truth like social media, mainstream media, whatever you call it, like that's an early indicator or bad things happening in society. And it's not just like social media, mainstream media, it's just everything around us. And the same on the justice side, too. If people commit crimes and there's no consequences, it's a nice early indicator.

    Travis Kalanick offers a diagnostic framework for societal health using truth and justice as leading indicators, applicable to understanding political radicalization.

  4. Communism is in is in all of us. Communism is in is in our blood as humans. And people go, 'What the hell are you talking about? You're crazy. What do you mean?' Well, I'm like, 'Well, have you have you ever in your life been lazy?' And everybody's like, 'Yes, I've been lazy in my life before.' I said, 'Have you ever in your life wanted something for nothing?' Yeah. The difference is, do you make that a way of life? And when you have ecosystems that essentially allow you to do both of those things without consequence, those ecosystems get a critical mass and start taking hold.

    Travis Kalanick reframes the appeal of socialism not as ideology but as a universal human tendency toward comfort and free reward, made dangerous only when institutionalized.

  5. I obviously AI is I think going to be the defining political issue of the midterms and for sure the the next presidential election. But I feel like what is going on with the DSA is really a fusion of two things. So, the Democratic Party, I I I was a Democrat for most of my life, and it was the party of the working-class people that was trying to create opportunities, you know, maybe level out um equality, you know, help black Americans, help Hispanic Americans. And, you know, you can agree or disagree with their methods, but I think those are all noble goals. And to a large extent, none of those are really present in the DSA.

    Gavin Baker, a self-described former Democrat, draws a sharp distinction between traditional Democratic working-class goals and the DSA's actual voter base and agenda.

  6. I think there's there's a whole class of people who went to an elite school. They grew up in really nice circumstances and uh instead of going into industry, they went into this kind of giant NGO nonprofit machine and their outcomes have been very different from people who did productive things for the world. You know, I've said on this show many times, Elon has done more to decarbonize the planet than every activist combined.

    Gavin Baker argues that elite-educated NGO workers have systematically worse real-world outcomes than industry actors, directly challenging the moral legitimacy of activist-led policy.

  7. If you look at the scourge of socialism, if you take the rhetoric away and you actually look at the outcomes, there are three countries that I think have veered far towards socialism well before the United States. Canada, the UK, and Australia. And I think when you look at any sort of reasonable measure of their progress, it's been an unmitigated disaster. So all of the virtue signaling on social issues, all of the virtue signaling on immigration and open borders, all of the virtue signaling on climate change has left each of those three countries in some state of disrepair with enormous amounts of infighting, tremendous political instability.

    Chamath uses Canada, UK, and Australia as empirical case studies to argue that progressive social policies produce measurable political and economic deterioration, reframing ideology as a testable hypothesis.

  8. I'm a full counter to Chimoth on this one. The I I think we all agree social media is bad for the kids and for the adults. Like too much of that stuff is very bad. It's brain rot for real. And it's going to be worse than cigarettes. It's all the things. But the real point of banning under 16 is so that you can force adults to identify themselves and deanonymize themselves so you can set up a fullscale censorship regime which they're sort of contemplating in the UK. And what censorship is really about is not about harmful content. It's about content that the people in power don't want you to see that disagrees with them.

    Travis Kalanick raises a crucial civil liberties counter-argument: that youth social media bans are a Trojan horse for adult identity verification and political censorship.

  9. On communism it is communism and the great tragedy of human experiences we can't learn from the experiences of others. And it may not matter that communism has failed utterly and ended in death and misery wherever it has been tried in a variety of different cultures with a variety of different mechanisms and every generation may need to experiment with it. I think the the saving grace and the importance of preserving free speech is that the DSA's policies and I would say in particular super progressive democratic policies are measurably bad. They lead to bad outcomes. If you care about black lives, there's a study that is uncontested that when you elect a Republican DA, all cause mortality for young black men in that city drops by 7%.

    Gavin Baker argues that free speech is the essential mechanism for exposing that progressive policies produce measurably worse outcomes for the very populations they claim to help.

  10. Distillation is when you have, you know, a a like, you know, we all have seen videos of these Chinese iPhone farms. Just picture a farm like that. tens of thousands of phones, iPads, and computers that are asking the cloud API through masked accounts, very specific questions, and then these what's called reasoning traces are being harvested because if you're on the API, you know, you get to see every token. And those reasoning traces are then fed back into the model during the reinforcement learning process and probably during the pre-training process. And that is a way that you can get really really close to the frontier at a fraction of the cost.

    Gavin Baker explains in accessible terms how China is likely using model distillation at scale to close the AI gap with US frontier labs at minimal cost.

  11. I profoundly believe the future is composable models and you're going to every enterprise. You're going to have a what Andre Karpathy called a council of LLMs. You're going to have, you know, you're going to have Grock. You're gonna have Anthropic. You're gonna have OpenAI Google. You're gonna have at least two of those. But you're also going to have your own open weights model that you are on your data. And you're gonna put those two together, the frontier models and your own model and you are going to get you know real paro dominant outcomes.

    Gavin Baker lays out a specific architectural prediction for enterprise AI: a hybrid of frontier models and self-hosted open-weight models routing queries by difficulty, with massive implications for how value is captured across the AI stack.

  12. This is a point I've been making really since I joined the administration is that we are in a very competitive situation with China. I've been saying this from the beginning. Our whole AI strategy from the get- go was about winning this AI race, defining it as a race, as being globally competitive. And we cannot afford to do things unnecessarily that slow our companies down. We do not have months to give away in this race.

    David Sacks articulates the core tension in US AI policy: that domestic regulatory caution directly benefits Chinese AI competitors who face no equivalent restrictions.

  13. If you don't know Micron, they are one of only three companies on Earth that make high bandwidth memory. These are specialized chips. They sit on top of the Nvidia GPU and their entire 2026 supply is sold out and has been for some time.

    Illustrates the extreme supply concentration in one of AI infrastructure's most critical components.

  14. One DRAM is the most important bottleneck. Memory capacity and bandwidth are foundational to the performance of every AI model. So, this is the most important bottleneck. Elon is focusing the terrafab on memory because he sees it as the most important bottleneck. Not lasers, not capacitors, not power supply semiconductors, not NAND flash, not HDDs, DRAM.

    Cuts through the noise of many competing 'AI bottleneck' narratives to identify DRAM as the singular constraint.

  15. They announced that they have these SDAs these supply chain agreements that have a floor and a ceiling for prices with increasingly large group of large customers and this covers essentially 50% of their revenue I think with just four customers and the floor pricing in these new contracts is ahead of prior cycle peaks from a gross margin perspective and so this is really I think pretty maybe end up being very transformational for the industry.

    Signals a structural shift in DRAM pricing dynamics that could permanently reprice the entire semiconductor supply chain.

  16. Memory is DRAM is probably going to be 30 to 40% of all hyperscaler capex next year. Every do the hundreds of billions of dollars that are spent going straight to DRAM. It's wild. But this may actually be very valuable for society because it is probably going to inflate the costs of building a gigawatt data center to the point where even for the hyperscalers, economics matter. We're caught in this prisoner's dilemma. And this may give us as a society time to adapt.

    Reframes a supply crunch as a potential societal safety valve that forces economic rationality onto runaway AI capex.

  17. To stand up a 1 gigawatt data center, it's $35 billion in semiconductors, Nvidia semiconductors, and it's $25 billion of power and cooling equipment. And that is clearly inflationary because a lot of that 25 billion is the human labor required to install it. So the calculation that needs to be done for orbital compute is it's 35 billion of silicon in each space and you know in literally outer space and orbit and on ground. But if you can get the cost of launch significantly below that $25 billion, then the math starts to really mass. And when Starship is reusable, it's going to cost $5 billion to put a gigawatt of compute into space.

    Provides a first-principles cost model showing how reusable launch could make orbital compute economically competitive with terrestrial data centers.

  18. I think that number is going to go up. So Sax I suspect that whatever forecasted energy consumption that we are looking at in AI is grossly imbalanced. There is very very meager supply and there's effectively infinite demand. So that probably pulls forward the economic equation to want to go to space. But then again, that's going to prefer SpaceX and their compute stack and their compute decisions over the hyperscalers and over anybody else. And so you're going to have a cost of an output token, I think, terrestrially, particularly from the hyperscalers, be a little economically lopsided versus SpaceX.

    Argues that energy scarcity on the ground creates a structural cost advantage for SpaceX's orbital compute at the per-token level.

  19. You have a couple of issues right now to turn on compute terrestrially. So, assume you have land, that's relatively straightforward. Assuming you can get it zoned, less straightforward. Assuming you can get power, very difficult. then you have a very critical design decision. So all of these folks publish these things called the basis of design and your your bods essentially tell you here's the anthropic spec, here's the open AI spec, here's the coreweave spec, here's the AWS spec, here's GCP and you get these 50 and up to upwards of 500page documents of all these technical details. The issue that we have is I don't know if you guys have used OpenAI or Anthropic recently where you get the whole thing of like come back later, right? That come back later is completely unacceptable. It just means that they have no compute.

    Exposes the gap between projected AI demand and available terrestrial compute capacity through concrete operational detail.

  20. When a model is answering your question it's doing two things. The prefill part is understanding the question and its answer thus far. And think of that as the more you can remember the bigger your memory capacity literally the more words you can remember the better. Decode is the process of generating the next token and that is a memory bandwidth bound problem and think of it as the faster you can speak the better and these two types of inference are increasingly being disagregated.

    Demystifies the prefill-decode split in LLM inference and explains why disaggregating them unlocks new hardware and infrastructure strategies.

  21. I think Anthropic is worth $3 trillion today and it's very important. Yeah, I think that is roughly where it would probably trade as a public company. They're going to end this year well over 100 billion. What's the 28 number? Is it 200? Is it 300 billion? It's probably not going to trade at 10 times that number and it will be very profitable at that scale because it'll be inference dominated and people reporting they have 85% gross margins on inference.

    A bold public valuation call on Anthropic that implies it would rank among the most valuable public companies ever, driven by inference margin economics.

  22. One is there is a whole generation of portfolio managers. There's a lot of people who are advocating for kind of squeezing the blood out of the stone on IPO prices. And the flip side of that is that there are a lot of portfolio managers who if a stock breaks deal price, they sell it no matter what. They consider it a promise that was broken. And so this is what has happened with Cerebras to some degree over the last two days. And you know this may seem irrational but there are people who run giant funds who I know personally where if a stock breaks deal price they sell no matter what. And so if stock breaks deal price it can sometimes go to places you wouldn't think it would go. And this means that shorts if a stock gets close to deal price they short it because they want to break deal price and then they make a quick 10 or 20%.

    Reveals a self-reinforcing mechanical dynamic in public markets where breaking IPO deal price triggers price-insensitive selling cascades that sophisticated short-sellers deliberately exploit.

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Synthesis

The Populist Insurgency Reshaping American Politics—And Why Silicon Valley Is Losing Control of the Narrative

The Democratic Party faces a crisis it largely created. A coalition of college-educated progressives and newly arrived migrants, organized by the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), has seized control of the party's base in major cities. In a stunning reversal of American political patterns, the left now wields the organizational muscle and charismatic leadership that once belonged exclusively to the right. The question facing Silicon Valley and the broader establishment is not whether this matters—it clearly does—but whether anyone can stop it.

How the DSA Won by Taking the Party Seriously

The results were stark. In New York's primary elections, DSA-backed candidates swept three congressional seats in what betting markets had rated as a 26% outcome. Brad Lander, a longtime socialist organizer, unseated Dan Goldman—a two-term incumbent with all the right progressive credentials who had led Trump's first impeachment. Jiabol Velazquez, a 32-year-old PhD candidate who has never held a job, toppled a five-term congressman backed by House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries. Claire Valdez won an open seat in a Brooklyn stronghold known as the "Kamala Corridor."

These are not fringe victories in safely red districts. They are takeovers of safe Democratic seats where the general election is a foregone conclusion. The DSA doesn't need to win the country—they only need to win Democratic primaries, where turnout is low, organizational discipline matters enormously, and a passionate minority can dictate outcomes.

The DSA's own rhetoric reveals the strategy. As co-chair Josh Block stated: > "We're using the Democratic Party as a ballot access vehicle...We see the Democratic establishment as an obstacle, not a home."

They are not infiltrating the party out of ideological sympathy. They are colonizing it, the way a parasite colonizes a host. The establishment Democrats who enabled open borders, mass migration, and the erosion of assimilationist practices have unwittingly created the conditions for their own displacement. As one observer noted, without the migrant vote—a constituency directly created by Democratic policy—Tammany Hall-style socialist Eric Adams would never have won the mayoral race in New York.

The Void Where Truth and Justice Used to Be

Why is this happening now? One diagnosis cuts deeper than others: the collapse of institutional trust. When truth and justice disappear from public institutions—when social media obscures facts, when crime goes unpunished, when leaders face no consequences for failures—the immune system of society breaks down. People begin accepting radical alternatives that would otherwise seem unthinkable.

This is especially true for young people who grew up through lockdowns, inflation, housing unaffordability, and surveillance-era social media. They inherited economic systems they perceive as rigged. A generational gap in Israel's favorability is instructive: while older Republicans maintain 50%+ approval of Israel, voters under 50 disapprove by 57%, and Democrats under 50 show 80% disapproval. For young people, the issues that dominate discourse—Gaza, housing, climate, student debt—feel like they matter less to existing power structures than to new actors willing to dismantle the system entirely.

The DSA's platform reads like a blueprint for constitutional demolition: abolish the Senate, abolish prisons and police, abolish the Electoral College, replace the presidency with a congressional executive, implement proportional representation and ranked-choice voting. Some candidates have openly called for erasing Western civilization. This is not marginal thinking anymore. It is becoming Democratic primary orthodoxy in major cities.

Why Silicon Valley's AI Message Is Failing

Chamath Palihapitiya offers a diagnosis that connects technology, economics, and political recruitment. AI, he argues, is the greatest economic leveler ever created—a tool that could democratize expertise and opportunity globally. Instead, Silicon Valley has botched the message so badly that the DSA now owns the narrative of economic justice.

"We've let all of our own personal trials and tribulations and insecurities and fights spill out into the open. As a result, Silicon Valley has lost even more credibility with the people at large. And in that vacuum, what other people can paint is a picture of how anything other than what capitalism looks like today is a better version of what they see."

The irony is vicious. AI could be sold as the ultimate anti-gatekeeping technology—a tool that gives every human access to world-class reasoning regardless of wealth or background. Instead, it's been narrated as a threat to employment, a water-hogging luxury, a danger requiring government approval. The DSA's anti-AI activists, funded by rivals inside the AI race (particularly Anthropic), have weaponized legitimate concerns and fabrications to poison the well. In a society hungry for an alternative vision, the DSA offers one. Silicon Valley offers regulatory capture and internal dysfunction.

The Charisma Factor: Eric Adams and the Trump Playbook

None of this would be happening without one man. Eric Adams, the DSA's spiritual leader (though not a formal member), is the most talented American politician Gavin Baker has seen in a lifetime. Like Trump before him, he has copied the populist playbook: tap into generational grievance, communicate in the idiom people actually speak, use social media with precision, and build a tent large enough to encompass ideological diversity.

Adams gave a speech about the Knicks that was so compelling it converted Jason Calacanis, a committed capitalist, into temporary emotional sympathy for a communist. That is the power of charisma in an era of institutional dysfunction. The policy doesn't matter if the story is compelling enough. Trump proved this. Adams is proving it again.

Meanwhile, the Democratic establishment has no one. AOC, once seen as a generational talent, is now viewed by the DSA base as a sellout. Bernie Sanders is a sellout. There is no counter-voice with comparable media instinct or emotional authenticity. This is why the takeover will continue—not because socialism is inherently attractive, but because the opposition is organizationally hollow.

China Races Ahead While America Debates

Meanwhile, in a different competition entirely, China is catching up to American AI at an alarming pace. Zhipu AI released GLM-4.2, an open-source model with 744 billion parameters that outperforms GPT-4.5 on coding benchmarks and trails Claude Opus by less than 1 percentage point. It costs 85% less to run.

The technique is called distillation: Chinese companies use API access to American frontier models, harvest the reasoning patterns, and feed them back into their own models during training. It's like reverse-engineering by brute force. The Zhipu founder told Elon Musk that open-weight models at frontier capability will arrive by Q1 2027. Six months sooner than expected.

This matters because it collapses the assumption that American regulatory restrictions will slow China down. If Chinese open-source models are already frontier-capable, then every additional restriction on OpenAI and Anthropic amounts to unilateral disarmament. The U.S. government, responding to cybersecurity concerns, has rolled back Anthropic's Claude Sonnet and created new approval hoops for OpenAI's latest model. China operates under no such constraints.

David Sacks, now advising the Trump administration on AI policy, argues the math is brutal: China is 6-9 months behind on models but 24 months behind on semiconductors, yet only a few months behind in total capability. They will close that gap if the U.S. continues to handicap its own companies. The economic and strategic implications are staggering—for America's position as the AI superpower, and for the geopolitical leverage it confers.

The Memory Bottleneck and the Race for Compute

If models are one competition, semiconductors are another. High Bandwidth Memory (HBM)—the specialized chips that sit atop GPUs in AI data centers—is now the binding constraint on AI scaling. Micron reported that its entire 2026 supply is already sold out, with revenue quadrupling year-over-year. Only three companies can make frontier-grade HBM: Micron, SK Hynix, and Samsung.

This constraint is now cascading to consumer electronics. Apple announced price increases of 14-25% on MacBook Pros and Mac Studios because the DRAM needed for AI is being hoarded by hyperscalers. A 1-gigawatt data center costs roughly $35 billion in semiconductors and $25 billion in power and cooling equipment. The memory bottleneck could inflate that cost further, potentially making terrestrial data centers economically marginal compared to orbital alternatives.

This is where Elon Musk's new venture, teased through trademark filings for "Megapod," enters the picture. Rumors suggest Tesla will deploy modular data centers—essentially shipping containers with stacked GPUs and cooling systems—at Supercharger locations where power infrastructure and land are already available. Combined with Starship's rapidly declining launch costs, putting compute into orbit becomes economically attractive. When launch costs drop below $5 billion and terrestrial costs remain $60+ billion, space-based inference pools may become the rational choice.

The constraint creates opportunity for innovation, but also instability. Hardware availability matters more than any announcement about AI safety or policy. The physical world is catching up to the digital one, and it cannot be regulated away.

§04

Fan-out

Questions raised

  1. 01 How should the tech industry communicate AI's societal benefits more effectively?
  2. 02 If AI democratizes expertise, what happens to professions built on gatekeeping specialized knowledge?
  3. 03 What mechanisms can restore truth and accountability in an era of fragmented media?
  4. 04 Is declining trust in institutions a cause or a symptom of political radicalization?
  5. 05 What institutional designs best counteract the natural human tendency toward rent-seeking?
  6. 06 How did the Democratic Party shift from representing working-class interests to attracting downwardly mobile elite progressives?
  7. 07 How should we measure the actual impact of advocacy versus market-driven solutions on problems like climate change?
  8. 08 What metrics would fairly evaluate whether progressive policy packages have succeeded or failed in these three countries?
  9. 09 Are there alternative explanations for these countries' difficulties beyond progressive politics, such as global economic shocks?
  10. 10 Is there a technical mechanism that could protect minors from social media without requiring adult de-anonymization?
  11. 11 What is the study Gavin Baker cites linking Republican DA elections to reduced mortality for young Black men, and how robust is it?
  12. 12 If each generation must experiment with communism anew, what institutions or education could accelerate learning from historical failures?
  13. 13 What technical or legal mechanisms could frontier labs use to prevent unauthorized distillation of their models?
  14. 14 How should enterprises decide which queries go to expensive frontier models vs. cheaper self-hosted open-weight models?
  15. 15 What is the right framework for balancing AI safety regulation against the competitive urgency of the US-China AI race?
  16. 16 Why are only three companies capable of producing HBM, and what are the barriers to entry?
  17. 17 Can Terapab realistically close the DRAM supply gap, and on what timeline?
  18. 18 How do floor-price contracts in DRAM compare to similar structures in other commodity semiconductor markets?
  19. 19 Which four customers account for 50% of Micron's revenue under these new agreements?
  20. 20 At what capex level does DRAM scarcity actually slow hyperscaler build-outs in a meaningful way?
  21. 21 What are the latency and reliability tradeoffs of orbital compute versus terrestrial data centers for inference workloads?
  22. 22 How does the $5B launch cost estimate change if Starship cadence is lower than projected?
  23. 23 What fraction of proposed data center projects are currently being contested or blocked on energy grounds?
  24. 24 Would SpaceX's orbital compute primarily serve inference, training, or both?
  25. 25 How long does the average permitting and energization process take for a new data center in a friendly versus unfriendly regulatory environment?
  26. 26 What revenue multiple and margin assumptions are embedded in a $3 trillion Anthropic valuation, and how does that compare to other platform companies at scale?
  27. 27 How would Anthropic's valuation be affected if open-source models commoditize the inference market?
  28. 28 Does the deal-price short-selling dynamic represent a market inefficiency that issuers could arbitrage with auction-based IPOs?

Concepts to learn

  1. 01 Economic leveling through technology
  2. 02 Knowledge vs. expertise distinction
  3. 03 Societal immune system metaphor
  4. 04 Incentive-compatible systems
  5. 05 Party coalition realignment
  6. 06 Curley effect
  7. 07 Policy outcome measurement
  8. 08 De-anonymization as censorship infrastructure
  9. 09 All-cause mortality as policy outcome metric
  10. 10 Model distillation
  11. 11 Reasoning traces
  12. 12 Composable model architecture
  13. 13 Regulatory asymmetry
  14. 14 High Bandwidth Memory (HBM)
  15. 15 DRAM vs NAND flash
  16. 16 Memory bandwidth as AI bottleneck
  17. 17 Supply chain agreements (SCAs) with price floors and ceilings
  18. 18 Prisoner's dilemma in AI capex
  19. 19 Orbital compute
  20. 20 Cost per output token as a competitive metric
  21. 21 Basis of Design (BOD) documents
  22. 22 Compute rationing by AI providers
  23. 23 Prefill vs. decode disaggregation
  24. 24 Memory-bandwidth-bound workloads
  25. 25 85% gross margins on inference
  26. 26 Deal price as a behavioral anchor for institutional investors

References invoked

  1. 01 Anthropic-funded anti-AI groups mentioned as example of internal AI industry conflict
  2. 02 Google search as the first major economic productivity unlock of the internet era
  3. 03 Ayn Rand's 'The Fountainhead' — mentioned earlier as Travis's philosophical touchstone on individualism
  4. 04 Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) platform and voter demographics
  5. 05 Elon Musk's role in EV adoption as a case study in market-driven decarbonization
  6. 06 UK Online Safety Act and contemplated age-verification requirements
  7. 07 Andrej Karpathy's 'council of LLMs' concept
  8. 08 Anthropic's Dario Amodei and his advocacy for an FAA-style AI regulatory agency
  9. 09 SK Hynix and Samsung — the other two HBM producers mentioned
  10. 10 Brad Gerstner's 'social contract' framework for AI development
  11. 11 Groq (acquired by Nvidia) and Cerebras as decode-optimized silicon alternatives to Nvidia H100s
  12. 12 Dutch auction IPO model — mentioned as the alternative pricing mechanism that could avoid this dynamic

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